Jeff Gordon > Dale Earnhardt

[gcdevil22]

Jeff could pass Dale, how do yall feel about that?

Can't wait...

[greencrest1272]

Still needs 3 more championships just to tie him. The way he has been running the past couple of years, to say its a long shot is a stretch.

NASCAR screwed itself when they banned the Hemi- Petty could pass them both and NOT ram them to do it. The banning of the 70 or 71 Daytona bodystyle sucked too. How many know that those body styles were limited to a 305 displacement in an effort to even the field for Chevrolet? They also banned the Talladega of Ford?
1969 the Nascar wars heated up. GM was pretty much a non-factor. Mopar and Ford were going at it full steam. The 68 season had shown just how slippery the New Torino was. But Ford was still outgunned by the Hemi. Nascar would not allow Ford to run the SOHC 427 (Cammer) so they had a new motor to try, the Boss 429. In order for the engine to be legal Ford need to sell 500 to the public. Initially the motor was to go in to the Talladega but the marketing types changed that and the Boss 429 Mustang was born. Still Ford knew that to be competitive on the Super Speedways they needed a more aerodynamic car. Enter the Talladega . They grafted a more slippery nose on the front end moving the grille flush the rest of the front. The bumper was a rear bumper cut and rewelded to fit the front. The biggest change was the rockers were rolled. This allowed Ford to lower the car more than a stock Torino for racing yet still be within Nascar regulations.

[TheBeast]

How do you really gauge a driver by wins or by championships. Championships are more indicative of driver prowess than wins since it is based on consistently good finishes. Gauging them both equally then Petty should have like 20 championships instead of 7 this would be using a scale of 1 championship for every 10-12 wins. I also don't like comparing Petty to others since he was only one of a few drivers with the resources and factory backing when he was doing all of his wining after the advent of more common types of cars and motors and GM and Ford started giving more backing and teams started getting more sponsor money he became just another top 15-20 dirver on a regular basis insted of always in the top 5.

Judge them however you like. Once you put everybody in the same car, don't run at least something like what is in the showroom, and split hairs, you have "Rasslin' on Wheels"- it isn't racing stockcars anymore. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[TheBeast]

This is true. I am not at all likin the idea of the car of tommorow that they will be running some next year. I would be inclined if I were Chevy, Ford, Dodge to pull out of Nascar completely and not have any association with those cars or the sport since Nascar won't let them do like they did for years and build a car to race and then produce it like the Daytona SuperBee, Lumina, Monte Carlo, Thunderbird of the 80's etc.

[otto_man]

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NASCAR screwed itself when they banned the Hemi- Petty could pass them both and NOT ram them to do it. The banning of the 70 or 71 Daytona bodystyle sucked too. How many know that those body styles were limited to a 305 displacement in an effort to even the field for Chevrolet? They also banned the Talladega of Ford?
1969 the Nascar wars heated up. GM was pretty much a non-factor. Mopar and Ford were going at it full steam. The 68 season had shown just how slippery the New Torino was. But Ford was still outgunned by the Hemi. Nascar would not allow Ford to run the SOHC 427 (Cammer) so they had a new motor to try, the Boss 429. In order for the engine to be legal Ford need to sell 500 to the public. Initially the motor was to go in to the Talladega but the marketing types changed that and the Boss 429 Mustang was born. Still Ford knew that to be competitive on the Super Speedways they needed a more aerodynamic car. Enter the Talladega . They grafted a more slippery nose on the front end moving the grille flush the rest of the front. The bumper was a rear bumper cut and rewelded to fit the front. The biggest change was the rockers were rolled. This allowed Ford to lower the car more than a stock Torino for racing yet still be within Nascar regulations.


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Petty sucked after the "evened things up" he couldn't even finish most races, much less win anything after the 79 season. yeah petty may have won 200 race, but back in his prime, they ran 60 and 70 races a year, sometimes friday, saturday and sunday, at the same track, dirt tracks, and crap like that. And you could do anything to your car you wanted, it was the best car who won back then, not the best driver. Whoever had the most money to spend on there car before the race, usualy won the race, petty's skill pales in comparrison to the real King, Dale Earnhardt!

[TheBeast]

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Petty sucked after the "evened things up" he couldn't even finish most races, much less win anything after the 79 season. yeah petty may have won 200 race, but back in his prime, they ran 60 and 70 races a year, sometimes friday, saturday and sunday, at the same track, dirt tracks, and crap like that. And you could do anything to your car you wanted, it was the best car who won back then, not the best driver. Whoever had the most money to spend on there car before the race, usualy won the race, petty's skill pales in comparrison to the real King, Dale Earnhardt!

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[NotSoSilentBob]

Gordon will do well to win one more title, much less 3 or 4.